May 8, 2005
ORAUTA SCHOOL AND ANZAC DAY: IS THERE A CONNECTION?
by Helen HughesOrauta School has been closed by the Government Department of Education. The community of Orauta however, wish their school to remain open.
The school board of trustees is not asking for government funding, it is just asking that the Department of Education leave them alone.
The government is using bullying bureaucratic stand over tactics, plus bribery and fear in its attempt to force this community to close their school. The Department of Education has now resorted to penalizing the community by charging them $1000 per day for trespassing.
The Government is persecuting this community for accepting the responsibility for the education of their own children! ANZAC soldiers fought and died defending this country against the tyranny that was threatening to overtake the free world. Fascism and Nazism, i.e. National Socialism.
With the recent ANZAC Day ceremonies, we have remembered, and reflected upon the lives, and deaths, of the brave men and women who went to battle against a great evil.
These people paid the greatest possible price to protect the freedoms of all New Zealand citizens, that we may live free of government persecution and dictatorship.
ANZACS DIED SO THAT THIS SORT OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN HERE.
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He mihi nui ki nga Tamariki o Orauta School. Aroha mai!
Ko Ngati Pakeha te iwi
Ko Amerika te rohe
Ko John taku ingoa
Hello,
As an American child attending school in North Island during the late 1950's I best remember one thing quite well: Maori children were not allowed to speak their language (Te Reo).
Coming from Los Angeles, I thought this was so silly because in America my school mates spoke their languages (Spanish, Russian, French, etc) at school and were not caned or told not to speak.
Today, fourty years later, the New Zealand government continues it repressive, and arbitrary actions against Maori. Unfortunately Orauta School is one more example of the governments meaness. Why? I can find no reason for the NZ governments vendetta waged against their own indigenous people. A sad state of affairs and should be made known to the larger world. What a shame Maori are not in the position of their indigenous neighbors in Samoa, or Fiji. There, at least, the natives have maintained or increased sovereignty over land which is rightfully theirs to begin with.
Ka whawhai tonu matou, ake, ake, ake.
na,
John
Amerika
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Ko Ngati Pakeha te iwi
Ko Amerika te rohe
Ko John taku ingoa
Hello,
As an American child attending school in North Island during the late 1950's I best remember one thing quite well: Maori children were not allowed to speak their language (Te Reo).
Coming from Los Angeles, I thought this was so silly because in America my school mates spoke their languages (Spanish, Russian, French, etc) at school and were not caned or told not to speak.
Today, fourty years later, the New Zealand government continues it repressive, and arbitrary actions against Maori. Unfortunately Orauta School is one more example of the governments meaness. Why? I can find no reason for the NZ governments vendetta waged against their own indigenous people. A sad state of affairs and should be made known to the larger world. What a shame Maori are not in the position of their indigenous neighbors in Samoa, or Fiji. There, at least, the natives have maintained or increased sovereignty over land which is rightfully theirs to begin with.
Ka whawhai tonu matou, ake, ake, ake.
na,
John
Amerika
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Re: ORAUTA SCHOOL AND ANZAC DAY: IS THERE A CONNECTION?
Dear John,
Thank you very much for your response.
I am sorry to say, but you are completely wrong.
You claim that: "the New Zealand government continues it (sic) repressive, and arbitrary actions against Maori." When was the last time that you spent some time in New Zealand? I have heard the terrible stories of children who were punished for speaking their native tongue back in the fifties. However, if teachers were still allowed to cane children today, children would be caned if they *refused* to speak Maori.
These days, Maori culture is revered by those in power and endlessly promoted using billions of taxpayer dollars. Corruption has flourished as the money is channelled into the pockets of a handful of unscrupulous Maori and their families. The Maori culture and language have been forced into many walks of life and biculturalism has become the watchword of the politically correct.
Unfortunately, the freedom of average, individual Maori are as suppressed as the freedom of individuals of any other ethnic group. Once again this is a symptom of the socialist view that the group is more important than the individual.
The Orauta School travesty is a sterling example of this. Regardless of all the racist laws promoting Maori culture to the exclusion of others, and the lip-service which is paid to Maori sovereignty, the individual rights of the Orauta community are still being trampled by the politically-correct left-liberals in power.
The fact is, many small community schools, of varying ethnic constituencies, from mostly European to mostly Maori, have been forcibly closed by the government in the recent past. The only difference in the case of Orauta School, is that the parents and teachers had bravely decided not to roll over when the government said so. They should be heartily congratulated for their courage and supported in their fight against government oppression.
So why this contradiction between the vocal and generous support of Maori culture by the government, but the simultaneous suppression of individual rights when the Orauta community try to teach their children according to their own traditions? Two words: Nanny state.
My suspicion is that there is an underlying racism in the thinking of many in the left-liberal camp. They seem to think that Maori need special help, and can not excel, or even cope, without government intervention. I believe that this is just an extension of their general view that all individuals are supposed to be dependent on the state. So when a few individuals make a stand and say they do not need, nor want, government intervention and support, this clashes with the socialist credo of the government. As a consequence, this resistance has to be stamped out, even if it contradicts the government support of Maori culture.
Basically, the statists are saying: "Do not try to look after yourself. We will spoon-feed you your culture, suitably modified to mesh with our ideology."
This is just my personal take on it; Helen might have a different view.
Libertarianz believe that government has no legitimate business in culture. We are also advocates of individualism and do not believe that people should be judged based on their ethnic background.
Regards
Julian Pistorius
Posted 5 years, 8 months ago by Julian Pistorius • @ • www • Reply
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Thank you very much for your response.
I am sorry to say, but you are completely wrong.
You claim that: "the New Zealand government continues it (sic) repressive, and arbitrary actions against Maori." When was the last time that you spent some time in New Zealand? I have heard the terrible stories of children who were punished for speaking their native tongue back in the fifties. However, if teachers were still allowed to cane children today, children would be caned if they *refused* to speak Maori.
These days, Maori culture is revered by those in power and endlessly promoted using billions of taxpayer dollars. Corruption has flourished as the money is channelled into the pockets of a handful of unscrupulous Maori and their families. The Maori culture and language have been forced into many walks of life and biculturalism has become the watchword of the politically correct.
Unfortunately, the freedom of average, individual Maori are as suppressed as the freedom of individuals of any other ethnic group. Once again this is a symptom of the socialist view that the group is more important than the individual.
The Orauta School travesty is a sterling example of this. Regardless of all the racist laws promoting Maori culture to the exclusion of others, and the lip-service which is paid to Maori sovereignty, the individual rights of the Orauta community are still being trampled by the politically-correct left-liberals in power.
The fact is, many small community schools, of varying ethnic constituencies, from mostly European to mostly Maori, have been forcibly closed by the government in the recent past. The only difference in the case of Orauta School, is that the parents and teachers had bravely decided not to roll over when the government said so. They should be heartily congratulated for their courage and supported in their fight against government oppression.
So why this contradiction between the vocal and generous support of Maori culture by the government, but the simultaneous suppression of individual rights when the Orauta community try to teach their children according to their own traditions? Two words: Nanny state.
My suspicion is that there is an underlying racism in the thinking of many in the left-liberal camp. They seem to think that Maori need special help, and can not excel, or even cope, without government intervention. I believe that this is just an extension of their general view that all individuals are supposed to be dependent on the state. So when a few individuals make a stand and say they do not need, nor want, government intervention and support, this clashes with the socialist credo of the government. As a consequence, this resistance has to be stamped out, even if it contradicts the government support of Maori culture.
Basically, the statists are saying: "Do not try to look after yourself. We will spoon-feed you your culture, suitably modified to mesh with our ideology."
This is just my personal take on it; Helen might have a different view.
Libertarianz believe that government has no legitimate business in culture. We are also advocates of individualism and do not believe that people should be judged based on their ethnic background.
Regards
Julian Pistorius
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kiaora
i hear all this korero from the ministry of education about the quality of education the tamariki at orauta school are getting. The tamariki are getting the same quality of education they were getting when the school was a registered school just because the school is not under the M.O.E doesn't lessen the teachers qualifications she has had 35years experience so i think thats enough quality education any tamariki can get.
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i hear all this korero from the ministry of education about the quality of education the tamariki at orauta school are getting. The tamariki are getting the same quality of education they were getting when the school was a registered school just because the school is not under the M.O.E doesn't lessen the teachers qualifications she has had 35years experience so i think thats enough quality education any tamariki can get.
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Re: ORAUTA SCHOOL AND ANZAC DAY: IS THERE A CONNECTION?
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for your comment. You are correct. Moreover, in fact, I believe the children at Orauta are actually getting a better education than the kids in the state schools in the area.
Helen Hughes and I were just talking about this last night. There are so many little anecdotes relating how Orauta is different, and BETTER, than other schools. From the respect that the kids have for their teachers, especially now that they realise that education is a privilege, to the very close involvement that parents have in the school. It reminds us of how schools used to be, and can once again be.
The few children whose parents had been forced to move them to state schools, have shown themselves to be miles ahead of their state school counterparts.
The Ministry of Education has been trying to undermine this community in devious and underhanded ways. Don't trust anything the government says. I would suggest that anybody who is interested in the truth, to get in touch with Ken Brown and the principal, to arrange for a visit.
Posted 5 years, 5 months ago by Julian Pistorius • @ • www • Reply
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Thanks for your comment. You are correct. Moreover, in fact, I believe the children at Orauta are actually getting a better education than the kids in the state schools in the area.
Helen Hughes and I were just talking about this last night. There are so many little anecdotes relating how Orauta is different, and BETTER, than other schools. From the respect that the kids have for their teachers, especially now that they realise that education is a privilege, to the very close involvement that parents have in the school. It reminds us of how schools used to be, and can once again be.
The few children whose parents had been forced to move them to state schools, have shown themselves to be miles ahead of their state school counterparts.
The Ministry of Education has been trying to undermine this community in devious and underhanded ways. Don't trust anything the government says. I would suggest that anybody who is interested in the truth, to get in touch with Ken Brown and the principal, to arrange for a visit.
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